In episode 3 of Conversations, host Rick Curtis sits down with Bob Bumgarner, Lead Missional Strategist of First Coast Churches, to discuss how associations can build a culture of relationships that truly supports pastors. Discover why “don’t pastor alone” drives everything in their network, how prioritizing pastors first leads to stronger churches, and what it looks like to move from simply offering resources to cultivating meaningful connection. Bob shares practical counsel for discouraged AMS leaders, including how to reset through listening, peer relationships, and renewed clarity of calling. Listen in for a clear picture of how relational leadership strengthens associations and helps pastors thrive in real time.
Published April 2, 2026